| By : Roggbif | Buy | 03:07 05/07 2008 |
 | "Now when a player is bought, he can not be placed for sale the same season."
Does this count for the teamless-players too? |
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| By : Big Dunc | Love it | 03:17 05/07 2008 |
 | great worked as always. hope this will stop some of the "youth farmers"
Happy summer holidays everyone |
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| By : Mr Gallina | Players can only be... | 03:45 05/07 2008 |
 | I didnt like this one, but great work for the other changes.
For the bigger teams i think thats ok, but how should a team like me make some money?
Seems like things are getting harder for each season, wow, this is starting to get a little boring...
I dont want to complain, but i dont think this was such good idea.
I think buying and selling is a great ability, well its not like that someone can take total advantage of this game because of this. In any seasons teams have done this but still they are not the biggest teams. The teams who buys and sells all the time also buys from other teams who deos the same. so i think this was totally fair.
Im sure the bigger teams will say that this was good idea for stopping those who pickup youths and sell them for a higher price to make money. They already have a great team with high Q players and good income so this will be nothing for them.
But how do u think the current big teams grew up to be what they are right now?
Nowdays when a player begins he gets 17.5m + maybe some few millions in sponsors.
With those money u cant even buy one Q72 youth! maybe u can pick up a Q69 and train him up, but with this update the new manager wont be able to sell him after all his hard job for making the player better. How should we make money? if u tell me, ill take this back.
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| By : Arsene Brailovsky | * A player can only be bought (or sold) | 05:15 05/07 2008 |
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I didn't like this one, sometimes you buy a q71 player, you work it, and then you want to sell it the same season when he is q74, you've spent credits on training him. |
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| By : Malayed | Fair enough.... | 05:45 05/07 2008 |
 | good job spinner!!!!!!!
that makes the good and better!!!!!
Is there more new things during the season updates?
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| By : coma | DEV | 09:36 05/07 2008 |
 | this means DEV action |
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| By : Bullzeye87 | NIICE!! =) | 09:48 05/07 2008 |
 | Good job spinner =) think this will only make the game more fair. cause i think it's totaly lame that some people buy sell buy sell. much more reality like real fotball now and much more fair play.
Very good job spinner and loking forward to july nice summer to u too  |
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| By : Tore Pupper | Like it | 10:01 05/07 2008 |
 | Maybe the most important update in 20 seasons
My only concern is that ressistance will be to high, and changes will be made...
Anyway, impressive thinking so far Spinner |
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| By : Osloborger | Selling... | 10:09 05/07 2008 |
| Most seens good, but not the rules about not selling any player bought in one season. Poor teams need cash and most teams should be allowed to sell ONE player they have bought during a season. That would limit inflation a lot, because today some team sell many more then one. |
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| By : senja111 | New teams | 10:24 05/07 2008 |
| I dont think this changes are good for new teams. it will be harder to grow and make the same amount of money as the old big teams. |
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| By : Mehmet | good | 10:25 05/07 2008 |
| good ideas , but may be we can add new buildings and wage costs must be up!!! |
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| By : Bendik Micheeff | nice! | 10:45 05/07 2008 |
 | i love it
good job spinner
Have a nice summer!!! |
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| By : Mycroft | Hmmm | 11:09 05/07 2008 |
 | Not sure what I think about it, receive only 100 creds means no cup, esp no norwegian forum cup. I like that you can't sell the player same season as you buy him, like the real world. Perfect. |
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| By : coolcam666 | My only worries are...... | 11:35 05/07 2008 |
 | If you can only transfer a player once per season their value will sky rocket. This is because the amount you have to put into them will increase. Also in rounds 1-5 the value of players will be gigantic due to the massive selling off.
Also with the credit thing i think a little change should be made so that the 100 creds is only to do with the transfer of players. As Mycroft just said this rules out rewards for cups and such which was always a great feature. I think such rewards should be put to the admins for examination then completed.
Finally the reducing the friendlies revenue is a bad idea. Since a lot of the youth farmers get part of their wealth from the revenue of friendlies they will not have as much money. This will increase demand for the youth players, as will the one transfer rule, and make the price of youths ridiculously high due to the fact they dont have as much money as they need to buy.
Please take these into consideration. |
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| By : SincaD | Prices | 11:50 05/07 2008 |
 | I think these changes will make the prices go up dramatical. We will see again a lot of silly bids. |
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| By : Kew Almighty | .... | 11:59 05/07 2008 |
 | Some things are good, but i really hate the max 100 credits per season and the max income for friendlies. People who buys credits (i assume they have more than people who dont) should get a little advantage. So that really sucks i think. |
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| By : S c r a t | Question and thoughts... | 12:06 05/07 2008 |
 | Quote: * A player can only be bought (or sold) once per season
-What about teamless players? if i buy a teamless player.. can i sell him the same season?
Anyways.. I like most of the changes.. and looking forward to see some results even though i think 100 credits in total is to low 200 in total i like better since that was the original max amout.. until ppl started to send credits through other teams..
I like that you changed the income on friendlies down to 250k.. it will stop alot of money to get into the game
and to the fortune tax.. i still think you can increase it up to 3-5%.. 2% is really nothing..
This was my thoughts only tho
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| By : SirKris | Nice | 12:28 05/07 2008 |
 | I especially like the transfer changes where a player can only be bought or sold once per season.
Also the fortune tax change is a nice addition, hopefully it will work as intended |
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| By : Lord Evens | NOT NICE | 12:45 05/07 2008 |
| * The max-income from Friendlies has been reduced from 300.000 to 250.000, the same amount you get if you convert credits to money |
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| By : tonycfc | restricting the teams who need to catch | 13:10 05/07 2008 |
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i think these changes will suit the teams who are already king midas and have all stadium apgrades done
in my opinion this only broadens the gap between the veterans and the likes of me and fellow managers who will follow in my footsteps,how can i possibly catch up with them now if i cant do basically what these teams have been doing for many seasons
as reguards the credits why would you want to put a stop on this as alot of managers are in a position to use their 200 donated credits if they so choose,i understand that not all managers can but surely the game has to be aimed at the people who can and will spend money and alot of credits during the season
all of the above really has me thinking now should i bother to go on if i cant catch up with the king midas in the game
whats the point now if it will take me atleast 10 more seasons to catch up with the likes of Hogwarts(just an example)
surely Spinner these changes arent one of your brighter ideas and i know alot of managers will like them but coming from a manager who spends alot on credits every season and is active nearly all day every day surely there more important upgraddes to be carried out
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| By : mgg | i dont like | 13:15 05/07 2008 |
 | not good |
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| By : Kaiser Soze | very nice | 13:15 05/07 2008 |
 | Glad to see that steps are taken to reduce the inflation
Very nice with the rule that a player can not be sold twice in one season!! |
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| By : Little Mourinho | wrong | 13:22 05/07 2008 |
| * A player can only be bought (or sold) once per season
bad idea. this way a new team cannot attack division 1 in less than 10-15 seasons. if someone is good at marketing, why would u block that talent of him?
reevaluate this one please |
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| By : Corvus Corax | Fair | 14:51 05/07 2008 |
| This is fair improvements of ML.
Its all about doing this game more perfect.....and I think it does..
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| By : Marching On Together | Credit-donations | 15:29 05/07 2008 |
 | You will now have to buy at least 50 credits every season to play 250 friendlies (100 open , 100 credits max income + 50 buy) Smart buisness move Spinner... |
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| By : Kula | Improvements | 15:56 05/07 2008 |
| Uhh, I didnt like these improvements.
I guess it would be easier for poor teams, but like, should the rich teams just miss more and more money?  |
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| By : Aladdin | noo ´!!! | 18:57 05/07 2008 |
| why do ml bad it was much beter befoure!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BAD BAD BAD!! |
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| By : Kew Almighty | .. | 18:57 05/07 2008 |
| The new changes will be very bad for new teams. Just less and less money for them.
For example the money for the friendlies: The 50,000 from the friendlies, is really needfull for the new teams. They should get more money instead of you lowering it.
They should for example get like 30m instead of 12m when they start. |
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| By : Bullet Tooth Tony | I like it! | 19:08 05/07 2008 |
 | gode tanker Spinner!
bra du står på selv på ferie! |
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| By : Geo Pap | Geo Pap | 19:48 05/07 2008 |
 | Greek League? |
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| By : jorik2007 | Jorik 2007 | 20:21 05/07 2008 |
| WHy cant we do more than 50 converstations every seasen, i want more so i can play more friendleys !!
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| By : Selleri | credit convertions | 21:06 05/07 2008 |
 | Ihe credits recieved for winning cups etc are not included in those 100 credits, for sure. dont worry |
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| By : Muyd | Wow | 22:08 05/07 2008 |
| Nice work for change |
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| By : razorbackboy | hmmm | 00:53 06/07 2008 |
| never bothered with credit donations to know it had any effect on the game 
im glad that theres atleast something being done to stop inflation
i mean the way its going, Q66 17 yr olds will be going for 100 million a piece soon!!!!!!!!! |
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| By : BaillsundRiot | Cupmatches?? | 01:54 06/07 2008 |
 | The attendance at cupmatches should be increased to 50000. 35000 is far to low!!! |
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| By : Spinner | Thenk you for your views! | 05:07 06/07 2008 |
 | Allow me to comment some of them:
First of all, according to the feedback, it seems some players think this is good for the "poorer teams" and some think they are good for the "richer teams". This demonstrates the duplicity in the work against inflation, and some challenges to overcome.
The "a player can only be sold once per season" was meant to stop the increased price on players that is caused by speculations by the teams who spend a lot of time hitting the search-button on transfers, to snatch up every player he can get his hands on on the teamless market before others get him. Now, such a player will not be able to get that many, as his team will fill up with players he can't sell until next season, leaving other teamless for others to buy.
As someone mentioned here, it COULD mean that the price will actually increase when it comes to team-to-team transfers, I must honstely say I do not know how it will play out, but it will also mean that more teams can pick up players from the teamless market, for lower prices. This angle has given me something to consider at least.
When it comes to the credit-donations and the new limit, I never meant to block off donations to create cups, no way. But we do wish to get rid of the large credit-deals in transfers, as they are disruptive to the game in the long run. And yes, I realize that we might lose real money on this limit, and still we wish to do it, for the good of the game.
To avoid the cup-issues, maybe the limit should still be 200 in stead of 100, as long as there is no way to get around it, like it has been now. |
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| By : Spinner | For those thinking... | 05:11 06/07 2008 |
| For those saying that the poorer teams will struggle due to the lower income on friendlies, you should consider that the newer teams don't get the max from these games anyway. So going from 300k to 250k might not make a difference for them.
If inflation is to be controlled (and everyone agrees here, it seems), all teams will have to "pay for it, if not much, and the richer teams will pay the fortune-tax and the loss of a little friendly-income, while the medium teams will pay the loss on friendly income, and the newer teams will not really notice anything at all.
Also consider, that having a little less money isn't bad if the money is WORTH MORE than it would have been due to inflation...
And for crying out loud, people should be less keen to pay lots of money for 17 year olds, when you might as well buy them at 18 or 19 and train them hard to reach their potential.... |
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| By : Spinner | Poll... | 05:13 06/07 2008 |
| I have also made a poll on the front page where you can vote and voice your opinion on the "A player can only be sold once per season".... |
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| By : Everest Leo | re Poll | 10:45 06/07 2008 |
 | Spinner, if you would ask people "would you like to pay lower taxes?"
...90%+ of them would say no!
(so not sure what comes out in the poll as most popular is best for the game. now it looks like neck-and-neck for yes/no. I would say "no" is best, as it stops the "teamless hunting".)
in long run, prices will most likely continue to increase: top teams need about 2 young players each year, and they get 0 (sometimes bad) or 1 youngster each year, so they need to buy about 1.5 younger players each year. the effective way to fight against inflation would be 2 youngsters / season, than demand would drop, all players would cost just as keepers now.
lower prices however would take away some part of the challange though: a good manager needs to be able to take care about his finances well....it's not necessarily bad if people are complaining, it only means game is harder - so it's challenging!!!
if you want more popoularity, just give everyone 17 year Q90 players for free! |
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| By : Ancelotti1 | Great! | 14:26 06/07 2008 |
 | Nice changes, and it shows that you really do listen to the players (About every change was more or less suggested in a thread in the Norwegian forum).
The only thing I'm worried about is the limit for receiving credits, because of the large cups. Maybe you could allow the teams that arrange the cups to receive as much as necessary? It will be more work for you, though ... |
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| By : Thales | cup donations | 14:55 06/07 2008 |
| instead of increasing the number of credits donated to players, perhaps it could be made possible to donate credits to cups. Like, someone can arrange a 64 teams cup and then if someone donates 10 credits to the cup it means the 5 next teams to signup can do so credit-free. |
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| By : Spinner | "would you like to pay lower taxes?" | 15:03 06/07 2008 |
| The poll is not at all about whether people would want lower taxes or not, not at all.
Most people agree that increasing prices must be dealt with, and the poll will show the expectations on whether players BELIEVE the transfer-limit will help in the right direction.
Don't forget that the prices are also controlled by psycology, like any open market, and the result of the poll will give me a hint to how that effect might play out.
Some of these things is almost impossible to predict, and so I am fully aware I might have to change it again later if it would lead to higher prices. But don't forget that you can only get the amount someone is willing to pay, so the buyers actually dictate the prices here.
That said, the Demand is a key factor here, and so I have adjusted the number (and the quality) of teamless players now, to create more players, with slightly higher average quality and slightly lower age. This should increase the amount of these wanted players, while the demand should be more or less the same, which should in effect help bring the prices down. But as I said, this isn't easy, and it might take some time before we see the results... |
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| By : Mr Gallina | Players can only be.... | 15:03 06/07 2008 |
| The current popular/ bigger teams dont need this and most of them surely will say no in the poll.
They already has build up a great team by this and dont need/ cant pick up i.ex. a Q74 because of the -9 rule.
They have been able to this in many seasons and im sure each of them has taken their chances! but now they want to say no...
This makes it harder for new teams to grow and makes it easier for the current big teams, cause they will face less challenges etc.
Dont u think its fun to buy players and sell them? or what it feels like when u got eyes on a good teamless player? what do u think then? u think, ow what a player, i can make big money If i train him well and sell him later! Very few would think, this player should stay in my team for many season, im sure he would be pretty good! u cant know that! cuz their potenial changes! thats why most of us dont take that chance and sell them. Maybe he will be great, maybe not, but atleast i can keep the money.
For many new teams that is the way for getting a better team, im sure most of us started like that.
We sell our best potentialed players, and to take it the next step.We pick up/ buy some low Q 17yos for the money, train them and sell them for a higher price when they get better.
This is the way of survivng! or to become great...and managers who pick up the better teamless player often, is their way to make money.
Not many wants to do that, because its boring and it kills ur time! for those who wants to do that, let them do it! as i said there are not many many manager who wants click on the search button all day long or who stays awake to 3-4 of clock late in the night. |
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| By : Spinner | Credits.. | 15:04 06/07 2008 |
| The previous limit was intended at 200, the problem was that it was circumvented by "going around the rules". Now that going around the rules should be impossible, I guess the limit can still be 200, to avoid cup-problems.
And if you want to arrange very special cups, contact support, and I can help. |
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| By : Spinner | Mr Gallina | 15:08 06/07 2008 |
| Your point is indeed taken.
I don't wish to stop people from buying, training and selling, I wish to stop people from being pure scavengers on the transfer-search, buying 6-7 youngsters and placing them for sale right away. Maybe the limit could work like "You can't place a new player on the market until 7 days have passed, or something like that...Do you think that would work? |
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| By : Mr Gallina | Spinner | 15:13 06/07 2008 |
| Yes! rather this instead of completely removing this ability. That was a great idea, but anyways most players train them some days before putting them on sale.
Because they think maybe he will gain in Q, then he will be worth much more.
But ur idea seems fair, so please edit this update.
Thanx for understanding/ getting my point. |
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| By : A Phillips | Other way to solve the problem | 15:31 06/07 2008 |
 | I think a better way would be to limit the transfres per season a manager gets to do (for instance 6). Then you can do what you want with the players (buy them or sell them) but just for a limited amount of times (3 buys and 3 sells or 4 buys and 2 sells, or 1-5, etc). This will also promote the sacking players function if you already have the money but you have few tranfers left.
Kind Regards |
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| By : Kew Almighty | .... | 15:46 06/07 2008 |
| I think it would be good if you can recieave a maximum 200 credits every season.Then you can make one big credit deal or some smaller ones.
Or maybe 250? |
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| By : Everest Leo | free market - or not | 17:15 06/07 2008 |
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it is like economic policy:
most important is to have _fixed rules_, so managers can plan and build their own strategies. ideally, managers should plan their finances 5-10 seasons in advance...
each time the rules change - it's like government's intervention..
at the end of the day it's a political question:
do you believe in free market or in socialism?
each time any price go high - people scream and government intervenes |
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| By : Gunners5 | arsenal vin Premier League | 22:58 06/07 2008 |
 | I am sure that Arsenal FC vins Barclays Premier League this season.... |
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| By : dvd100 | Young players | 10:02 07/07 2008 |
 | I do not see what all the fuss about not beeing able to sell off young players straight away.
I usually buy between 1-4 youngsters a season, then train them for 1-2 seasons before I sell them. This gives me more money, and for me its a lot more fun watching them grow in stats. Furthermore, as I see them grow my team also gets better.
So I think its a good rule to limit sell offs of young players. It makes the game more realistic. Do you ever see any of the really good teams, or any teams for that matter, buy young player just to sell them in a couple of days?
Totally rubbish, I suport this rule. Buy and train your young players propper before you sell them.... |
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| By : Aladdin | baaaaddd | 11:38 07/07 2008 |
| I will have ml some the realy world in fotball you mouste cudent sell a plyer after you has buy him in same seasong I come stop with ml if you comes do so some you say!!!!!!! |
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| By : v22 | good | 16:05 07/07 2008 |
 | nu puteti sa dati mai multe credite |
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| By : paulo6969 | verry bad | 17:13 07/07 2008 |
 | [edit]By : Spinner Mr Gallina Sun, 6 Jul 15:08
picture Your point is indeed taken.
I don't wish to stop people from buying, training and selling, I wish to stop people from being pure scavengers on the transfer-search, buying 6-7 youngsters and placing them for sale right away. Maybe the limit could work like "You can't place a new player on the market until 7 days have passed, or something like that...Do you think that would work?[/edit]
If you do this the rich teams buy all 17 good Quality players,because they can sell them again and nothing change.
We have to learn to use the team whom we have, be in players or in cash. All we want the best players and all we want to be very rich but if we will be able to buy and to sell in the same season, the most poor clubs are not going to have hypotheses any, it is my opinion. |
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| By : paulo6969 | Mr. Gallina | 17:26 07/07 2008 |
| Mr. Gallina, already I saw what his problem is, only have two players with 29 years (Géza Katona) and (Albert Fekete) in your team and other players are all with 17 and 18 years.
You invested much money in the players and bought many credits to train and now he is seeing that the result cannot be what you are waiting. |
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| By : Tore Pupper | dissapointed | 17:27 07/07 2008 |
| VERY dissapointed over changing the limit from 100 to 200
But, offcourse, better than no limit at all...
People are complaining over how they will survive without credit-deals...My problem is that I will not survive with credit-deals. Everyone seems convinced that I have extremely much money and credits, since I've been in the top for some seasons. Well, that's NOT the case. SO STOP GIVING ME SILLY OFFERS!!!
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| By : H.J.S.Smith | Hey! | 18:18 07/07 2008 |
| why play-off goals aren't counted to player? there r league goals, cup goals and that's all.
one of my players scores 4 goals in one play-off game.. and - nothing.. goals not counted! |
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| By : Gooner | Suggestion | 19:53 07/07 2008 |
 | Have you thought of limiting the number of team less players each team can purchase a season. If this was limited to only 2 or 3 wouldn't this restrict the practise of grabbing as many as possible just to sell them on. |
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| By : Mr Gallina | Paulo6969 | 02:15 08/07 2008 |
| Im not saying this just because i buy many youths by myself, and no i have more players in an older age than my two 29y olds.
Paulo, let me tell u that all good/ rich teams started by this, bying training and selling, and now they stand against us about this.
This way it makes it pretty hard for the new teams to grow.
Again ur wrong, i have not bought any creds at all, i have done cred deals plus the
15 free creds i get every season. I have not trained my youths so good either, playing about 170 friendlies per season.
Im succesful, u shouldnt tell me that im not, i have a young team and I have many choices.
I can train my youths to be excellent players , or i can become rich if i want.
With all my young talents i cant know for sure that all of them will be great players. Those who perform good and show their talent, i will keep, the rest i need to sell. That how i can get a "good" team.
Seems like ur just thinkin about Q, but if u dont think about Q, u will understand that u shouldnt say that other young teams are just waste of money and are unsuccessful.
I can tell u straight that my team has much more potential than urs and im sure every exprerienced manager would agree about that.
I dont like to boast about my team or somethin but its not nice to be called unsuccessful, at least not after all the hard work and my activity on ML.
Im actiually very proud of my team and are happy with my results, so dont come here telling me that "i now realize that i have handled things bad"! |
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| By : raz_van_oancea | Let's wait and see | 07:52 08/07 2008 |
 | *The fortune-tax has been increased from 1 % to 2 %. This only applies to any amounts above 100.000.000 $ and will only affect the richest teams.
I think that this fortune taxe should be increased for bigger amounts , like taxes .
Keep 1% for amount >100 mil
2% for higher that 300 mil
and 3 % for higher that 500mil
It's just a example
*A player can only be bought (or sold) once per season
I guess it's Ok if you count out teamless . First buy don't count
* The max-income from Friendlies has been reduced from 300.000 to 250.000,
maybe some division difference ?
Like div 1 300 000 , div 2 - 275 , div 3 -250 etc ...
* Credit-donations have been recoded.
i can live with that . But i think that 200 with 20 was very good to . |
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| By : Alastair | Good stuff | 09:27 08/07 2008 |
 | once agin i think the new season chnages or very good and u are constantly making the game better
good luck to all in the following season!!!!
one question what do you mean by the fortune tax only effecting the richest teams?
and little mourinio you sed thta the not being able to sell players after buying in the same season was wrong
but youll get to sell them next season and it doesnt mean youll have to wait 10-15 seasons to get to the top. |
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| By : Alastair | suggestion for next season change | 09:36 08/07 2008 |
| i dont know where to suggest ideas but i was just wondering when i went on prefrences on the game and realised there was still only 2 choices of skin black and white so i think it would be great maby to introduce more colours such as a very dark red or navy blue and get the coulours of the game to adjust too the new colours so it looks good
i belive this gives more creation to the game and a manger can have things looking the way they like best i hope u get too read this spinner as i think it wud be very good |
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| By : chillbill | Realism | 17:05 08/07 2008 |
 | I'm for these changes. Every change that makes the game more realistic is a good change. However, the max 250 friendlies is just about as far out it can get. I understand the need for earnings for the developers of the game, but there really should be another way to do this, instead of 250 friendlies you should be able to do more training for some extra credits. At least that would be a bit more realistic methinks... Just my .02 |
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| By : gavroche | Great Idea | 18:04 08/07 2008 |
| i think that player sold / bought thing is a great idea because it's like a "deadline" and some teams have been buying players and then fast resell them this stinks |
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| By : Lyall | Robin Hood | 11:49 09/07 2008 |
| Could the new restrictions be applied only to teams over a certain net worth? So for example, if the value of a team is based on transfer value of current sqaud plus cash is over 1000m, they pay higher taxes, can only earn up to 250k for a friendly and cannot sell the players in the same season as buying them.
Teams with lower net worth would then be allowed to do all these things until the point they reach the 1000m mark. |
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| By : DHorta | Way to go | 05:29 10/07 2008 |
| This game becames better and better every season |
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| By : E.T.? | for Spinner | 06:53 10/07 2008 |
 | * A player can only be bought (or sold) once per season - this is good !
A team can donate up to 100 credits in total - this is not so good !
Well, I've been on vacation - this is good!
* The max-income from Friendlies has been reduced from 300.000 to 250.000 - this is bad !
focus on improving balance and the fairness of the game - this i9s good ! |
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| By : Porcus | and me | 07:59 10/07 2008 |
 | *A player can only be bought (or sold) once per season...not good
that it's good just for big team who have money, a small team remain small...
Credit-donations
just 100...hmm, now many team must buy credit for make all friendly
and taxes
taxes it's that in romania, very more and big...no problem for me:-D and other romanian ....
now managerleague it's more difficult
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Just as people are preparing to go on vacation, season-change is soon upon us. I know season 37 is not yet completed, but I figured I could be a bit earlier with the information this time...